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    12-19 02:57 PM
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    12-08 12:02 PM
    I think it all boils down to this scenerio
    you have a seriously injured uninvited person in your front lawn about to die. what are you gonna do ?
    Some people would want that 'problem' to go away and some would want to help the person. Our actions make what we are ..
    BTW if anyone is interested, child birth generates 9 dols (measure of pain) of pain and at 10 dols a person dies. 9 dols is maximum pain a human being can suffer.

    Take your pick.

    I will call the Emergency services, to take the person off of my property...that is what I will do....
    And you know what..they probably gave this woman epidural too....

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  • sugaur
    12-07 10:22 AM
    Saguar, this is not a simple issue and we cannot just this as an independent event. Yes these people are here ilegally but what do they do; work. Yes they work for meagre wages and reduce the price of commodities which would otherwise need to be imported from elsewhere. Now we have heard that due to some of the raids innocent children were torn apart from their parents who never came back from work. children came back from school to learn that they will never see their parents again. whole towns, churches and communities cried out in anguish when such events happen. The pain is tremendous. when you allow a problem to get so deep rooted into the society often the best way to handle it is to first accept it and then plan carefully. You cannot suddenly start deporting a minor fraction of these folks who have indeed contributed to the economy directly/indirectly. You can import cheap goods from other countries but people are now realizing that it is better to import labor and have work done here. This raids and intolerance has an element of hatred mixed in and it is not only about "law". Churches came forward to hide and protect the children who were affected by the raids. shouldn't the children be evicted too??

    I equate the situation to a person who sneaks into your house at night and in the morning demands that you respect his human rights and provide him with food and water. No one would tolerate that, yet some how some people think thats ok when it comes to the countries borders.
    The church encourages it as most of the illegals are catholics. Poor and illeterate people are usually more likely to attend church and contributes to the churches influence. Believe me, were the Mexicans muslims, Jews or Hindus the church wouldnt care and would probably oppose it. The mosques and temples on the other hand might step in..............
    Regarding the children, please understand why they are in this situation. Due to the choices made by their parents.
    I think you and I can agree that illegals need to be treated with dignity. But they should not be coddled. . A US citizen who commits burglary, driving without a license, outstanding fines could easily be facing a jail term. The article wants you to feel outraged because her leg was shackled? Please read the headline again. Their strategy is to demonize the law enforcement when ever they try to enforce the law against illegals.
    Yes the problem is deep seated and complicated. Giving amnesty would make them all legal, so the problem goes away! Just like you hear some people talk about drugs. Lets make all drugs legal, so the problem of illegal drugs will go away! What kind of solution is that?

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  • gctest
    09-16 10:00 AM
    You were obviously born stupid.
    I am not really a great fan of your attitude towards people from India

    Is India... go back...

    Let us post your EB2 job online so that I can help find a US person to do it.

    PM me.. OK?


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  • reedandbamboo
    09-14 11:54 AM
    Most letters should reach in time, make sure you ask for return reciept / signature for receipt - or something similar while mailing the letters at the USPS.

    Also, letters to the white house take way longer because of security process - so Bush may read the letter the last, just 2 cents!

    Where possible, we should send emails and faxes .. since owing to "security concerns" there WILL be delays with snail mail, running into weeks.

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  • chanduv23
    09-14 10:08 PM
    This thread is good. Keep it going. I strongly recommend that - everyone active on thbis thread , please update your IV profile and also join a state chapter if you have not already done that. if you do not have a state chapter, contact your neighboring state chapters or if you want to start a state chapter, contact pappu or paskal and get permission to start one.

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    07-17 06:58 PM
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    07-05 03:00 PM
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  • udaykaran
    04-27 10:07 AM
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  • dpp
    07-17 08:45 PM
    Great Job. Also, please do not forget to congratulate Representative Zoe Lofgren. This would have not possible without her. This is a collective work.


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  • GCStatus
    09-18 11:40 AM
    Why don't you start your own site You can be admin and nobody will be a thorn for you. :D :D :D

    BTW - When are you filing lawsuit? and what are your basis to sue?

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  • english_august
    07-05 10:21 PM
    The idea that core wants to float is to have an effective campaign under the IV umbrella. Please come up with more innovative ideas and discuss with core.

    I think this campaign can be pretty effective if we want it to. This idea is not totally outlandish. If you recall, recently fans of the CBS series Jericho sent nuts to the office of CBS when that series was discontinued.

    Sometime back, Indians in the UK sent thousands of unstamped letters to their postal department, protesting a stamp that hurt their religious sentiments.

    Those campaigns worked and so can this. All we need is a little bit of enthusiasm!


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  • GC_Applicant
    02-25 10:50 PM
    Finally a good step forward since the DC Rally.

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  • PlainSpeak
    04-16 11:29 AM
    Come on guys it's the weekend..relax and enjoy it
    It's ok to let go of provocations
    Life is unpredictable so relish every moment
    Try yoga works wonders for me :)

    Precisely my words life is unpredictable so what makes the EB2 guys so confident to say that once EB2 becomes current EB3 I will get spillover
    Fact is .....
    - EB2 will never become current
    - Spillover will got to EBROW not EB3

    So all these logic will go out of the window because life is unpredictable


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  • anda007
    07-06 09:49 PM
    Is there anybody, in DC who can be there on July 10th to witness this and report this
    Especially, when the FTD/1800 flowers deliver these stuff

    Also, can we ask the media to be present to witness the spectacle

    It is good to know that people are acting! Do let your friends know about the article on Times of India. It can encourage more people!

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    09-07 10:20 PM

    I cannot use abusive language on the forum.. Have it as a private message..

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  • anurakt
    12-19 04:09 PM
    Only 9% away from my first $500 contribution as part of the pledge..... this forum is so slow.... I thought that by today noon I have to shell out $500...but doesn't looks the case...
    Oh I forgot ! This forum is used to slow processing ...let it be GC or Contribution..... doesn't surprises me..... Our fraternity is used to slow things just like GC .... come guys /gals ..... show some speed....

    Finally i think we may reach 50%.... I swear as soon as somebody confirms me that we have reached $29,500 figure I will put $500 and another $500 when we reach $59,500.....

    Keep it going guys ... I am bit positive for the halfway mark..... but don't think that the full way mark Miracle will happen.....

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    04-18 11:09 AM

    I have a question. I am a MS student who graduates late May and would not have my diploma till then. I asked my lawyer about the advanced quota and they told me that I would be needing the letter of completion from the school (which is not possible until I finish with this semester).

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  • vin13
    02-25 08:29 AM
    This is a brilliant idea. We are not asking a lot here. Even if they want to call it Pre-adjudicated, It should be fine.

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  • pritesh80
    04-11 12:54 PM

    since master's quota is still available, you can apply now. some lawyers say you can apply with that letter from school.Later if you get RFE you can submit your masters degree at that time. Anyways talk to your lawyer

    What is RFE?

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  • shantanup
    06-16 04:01 PM
    Good to have you back in action. Your attitude towards IV issues, lawmaker meetings and advocacy efforts in general is inspiring for others.

    A Great Big Thank You to all of you who have been Contributing to enable IV to organize an event of this proportion.

    My sincere gratitude for the countless hours/days/weeks/months that IV leadership has donated in doing the background work and getting the advocacy days put together. Special thanks to Aman, Himanshu, Pratik, Anu, Jay, Sivkanth, Gopal, Puneet, Kiran, Meenal, Prasad, Bimal, Vikrant, Devang, Ravi, Renji, Ameet & all the DC folk who arranged for out-of-staters to stay in their homes and helped with all the logistics. I got to witness your contributions first-hand. Thank You to your families who supported you and to all the other volunteers working remotely and finally to the ones that I inadvertently left out, a humongous thanks to you too! Kudos to the member from California who attended the event despite having a sick baby at home. Many many attendees have made many many personal sacrifices to come for this event and they are worthy of applause.

    At first, I was hesitant to join because I hadn't been as actively involved in the past months; there was too much personal stuff going on that needed to be dealt with; too much work load, and taking vacation now meant I would have to take unpaid leave when I needed it later. Plus the cost of tickets and getting away from family responsibilities. I thought I could escape with a $ contribution and let someone else do the real work. However, a few phone calls later, I realized how lame all this sounded when people that didn't need to be doing this were working hard for my issues and volunteering for an effort of which I was going to be a beneficiary. It helped that we had a team of members from Texas chapter who had already come forward to go to DC and others were contributing to enable more members to participate.

    Many conference calls were organized by IV leadership right up to the day of the event and many volunteers made hundreds of phone calls to request our members to participate and represent their state and districts. After all, members of congress are working to solve issues that are most affecting their own constituents and having members from their own district coming to DC carries a lot of weight. Many IV members I spoke with had some problem or another and couldn't make it, and then there were few that really wanted to help out in any way they could. In the background, meetings were being sought from both Senate and House representatives, and confirmations were coming in right up to the last minute.

    Situation Room on Sunday:
    Got to the Situation Room in Hyatt on Sunday afternoon. Nervous excitement was in the air. Meeting new faces & reconnecting with old ones brought back memories of September 2007 and the atmosphere of college festivals. Training sessions were already in progress, followed by mock sessions which I thought were a terrific idea. There were printers set up and volunteers were at work printing business cards and IV information materials and arranging them into folders. Another row of tables had been set up for signing in, IV coordinator & state chapter leaders were matching up meetings with team members , reaching out to members to confirm their attendance and new members were pouring in throughout the day and evening. Pictures were being taken and posted on the blog. Past and present USCIS Ombudsman visited us there and supported us and spent time talking to us one on one. There were a couple of people that had joined IV just a few days ago and now participating in Lobby Day. Then there was my DC host who was not going to be able to participate in the meetings, but the energy of the situation room got to him and made him change his decision. And how couldn't it! I stayed there helping out until midnight, but a few folks didn't leave until the wee hours of dawn. I must confess that IV Situation Room is THE most fun thing to do in DC. For those of you who missed it, I hope Congress does nothing and you get another chance when IV plans this again. (just kidding...)

    Monday - Day 1 of Advocacy:
    We met in situation room in the morning. Everyone picked up their schedules for the day and were off to a day of true grass-roots work of educating Congressional staff of our issues and proposing solutions. The most important part was telling our own stories of how the process is affecting our lives and driving talent out of the country. The staff members were very polite and listened carefully to our points. Not one of them argued against any of our issues. The support was there, although we did hear things about political climate causing the delay in action on part of Congress. I was done with meetings at 4 pm on Monday and we walked across the Capitol and onto New Jersey Avenue enjoying the perfect DC weather on our way back to the Situation Room. Folders had to be prepared for the next day and schedules created as well, since there were some last minute meetings coming in & some members not able to make it for the next day. We also had to pack and move and set up the new room upstairs since we switched rooms in the Hyatt. Once again, we got out of there at 3.30 am, and had to get back in by 9am.

    Tuesday - Day 2 of Advocacy
    Another full day of meetings was in store for everyone. We had fewer members on Tuesday since a lot of them had gone back on Monday and a lot of members did at least a few meetings by themselves. By this time we were all experts at the message we needed to deliver. Once again the response was similar. Some of the offices gave us leads into other representatives that might be able to champion the issue. Some of them were supportive of administrative fixes that could be done while Congress contemplates on larger fixes. Tuesday was the first time I had meetings on both the House and Senate side and we walked through the Capitol to get to the other side. There is a little mini train you can ride and the building has impressive murals and architecture. But we had very little time to appreciate those in detail. I had the opportunity to meet one Senator himself and it was a whole new feeling being face-to-face and talking to someone that shapes American future laws everyday and is directly going to vote on my issue. This is what democracy was all about, and IV was the enabler providing me the opportunity to be heard on the Hill.

    Tuesday - Congressional Reception
    This was held in the Capitol itself, we had leading lawyers attend as well as Ombudsman and Congressional staff and lobbyists. There was some nice food to be enjoyed by all, informal discussions, humor and brainstorming for the future. After the 2 hour reception many had flights to catch and rest of us went back to wrap up in the Situation room and brainstorm for the future.

    At the end of it all, I was a little sad to leave all the excitement and return to "normal" life. But there is tons of work to be done in local chapters and those of us who have been to DC know how important it is to go and seek out the members from each and every constituency from our state, get members to come forward and talk to the media, and finally raise funds so that we can continue lobbying Congress to fix this problem.

    Thank You IV for providing us with this platform to get our voices heard where it matters the most. Go IV!

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  • chanduv23
    11-11 03:32 PM
    Chandu - Can I Ask you something here.

    Just today I was reading on the ac21 thread, how you lamented that we as a community dont stand up for injustice and how some folks are worried that writing AC21 letter may mess up their situation somehow ......

    And right now , you are suggesting that the best thing is to get out of any kind of mess. So the person knew he was doing something illegal and his 8 month old kid was beaten up and you feel he paid the price and now No Problem and he should move on ???????????

    Somehow, this 2 + 2 isnt equating 4 for me. What am I missing here ?

    Sorry Chandu but I'm disappointed with you right now.

    You misunderstood my point here. Everyone are doing things at their own risk and must be ready to face any consequences.

    Our friend did know she was on tourist visa and illegal to work.

    Let me explain what is happening on sulekha

    You have some people advertising that they provide nannies for elderly care, child care, they provide food on daily basis and also provide cooks for occasions, services ranging from janitor work, to helping with groceries and all sorts of stuff.

    This industry is big - very very big. Some agencies did tell us they have nannies on j1 visa.

    We on this forum who are very vocal are the most innocent folks in the world when it comes to this kind of stuff and we have a straight tangential approach of punish someone for beating the kid.

    Well - lets use our brains instead. Believe me - our community does not have any sympathy, because we are not united.

    People can come on this forum and give advises - but the person who implements it must know what he can expect and that's why he posted here. Our friend is on h1b and maybe having his 485 pending and he must have careful thoughts before he leaps into something.

    What is the guarantee that a certified nanny wont ill treat the child. I have heard that nannies need not beat the child but do give mild sedation to babies in their milk so that the nanny can be in peace. If a nanny is doing that do you think she will be caught on tape?

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    07-06 08:55 AM
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    08-13 01:41 PM

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    07-06 09:07 PM
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    02-25 10:44 AM
    Very good idea. Actually I have sent this suggestion as part of the mail to ombudsman a while back.

    'realizeit' has used very good terminology.
    Would be great if IV core endorses it.Also looking forward to 'desi3933' comments.
    Once IV core endorses it running a funding drive for this action would be a good idea too.

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    04-03 06:25 PM
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    12-19 12:38 PM
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    09-07 09:54 PM
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  • godspeed
    08-22 05:27 PM
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    Approached the entry counter where they give you token to inside and talk to IO. Surprisingly the person at the entry counter had IO written on her badge that she was wearing. She asked me reason to visit. I told her that I applied for my I-485 and have been current for this month , but have not heard anything. She asked if I was EB2 or Eb3. I told her EB2. She asked for receipts. I gave her 485 receipt and copy of I-140. She then compared my PD with copy of August Visa Bulletin. After she confirmed that I was current, she told me that my case is assigned to IO. I don't think she even entered my A# or receipt number. But I am not sure about this part because I dont remember the exact sequence of events. Anyway, I asked her whether my NC is clear. She then entered something in the system and told me that my NC was clear only last month and thats why my case has assigned to my IO. But this time she told me it was assigned on 8/8/08. She told me I should hear something soon. Did not and was not ready to give any time line. Also she did not mention anything about visa numbers being exhausted. If this had been the case she could have mentioned that.

    After that I asked if everything else was clear, she mentioned without even looking at the system that everything is clear and I should hear on my case soon.

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    04-11 10:59 AM
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    Of course there are many, may be thousands who are waiting since 2002 or earlier. But the logic I gave was that these guys must have already filed their their AOS petitions in the interim years.

    My point was that, there is no way so many ancient labors (pre 2001) can get cleared last month and cause depletion of visa numbers. There is only one explanation. These labors were pre-approved.


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    08-12 08:29 AM
    Since processing time for Nebraska is 09/08, don't u think people in august get processed?

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    07-10 02:53 PM
    Senthil has articulated legal basis of current system. However, many members feel agrieved by current situation. My displeasure with current law was based on my perception about principles of natural justice and a dogma that one measure (current provisions) should not negatively impact other's basic rights for happiness, equality, nondiscrimination etc. Courts could take a look at how much damage or injury is possible or actually already resulting (stalled careers, family separation, life on hold, creativity-innovation halted) in current system. Atleast it will open up healthy debate and rational measures to address genuine problems.

    Could anybody clarify as to whether counting of family members towards annual quota is mandated by congress or it is an administrative provision.

    Bill Clinton did a wonderful fix by signing AC21 which corrected many shortfalls of immigration law.

    I am personally not impacted by backlog. However, I am feeling bad enough for the failure of current sysem that overlooks human tragedies. 180-day name check fix is a commendable step by USCIS (brought about by healthy debate and do not look at this as court-imposed). As in the scientific world, peer review and criticism is taken seriously in this country. By law suit, we are trying to create peer review or honest analysis about this impasse. No body wins but the truth and humanity.

    If there is any way to open up annual quota (recapture, family members exempt from annual limit or any measure I am not aware of), automatically everybody could benefit. It may be also possible for EB3 to interfile or refile for EB2 and take advantage of old priority date and shorten the wait. There is no magic wand! We could help our administrators, law makers, law protectors and law upholders to make appropriate corrections. Hence, scientific and rational dialogue through fair and just means should be our focus.

    Let us highlight our difficulties in a logical way. Go about living normal life but stand up for something you believe in.

    Honestly, Ineed to do some research on EB3 situation and see if there is something more meaningful to share with IVians.

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  • sheela
    08-21 06:36 PM
    Someone gave me RED dot for my posting/interpretion of memo (as below). I don't care but some level of maturity is expected on public forums:

    If at all this 'news' is true -this may be just something so-called internal matter. Best interpretion of this 'news' is: They may have assigned available visa#s to approvable petitions just as they did before 2nd July07 bulletin, where people kept getting approvals well into Oct07.
    So, ALL THE BEST to lucky ones who are 'pre-adjudicated'. How else you can explain Sep VB, which is yet to start from 9/1.

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  • ssreenu
    04-14 07:50 AM
    From the following information:

    1.Grant GC to all EB 2 / 3 class pimary applicants who have completed 8 years of continuous stay in the USA without any criminal record.

    Personally, I do think the above bill you requested in the #1) is extremely difficult to work. It is because there was a bill proposed to the EB-2/EB-3 applicants to occupy the annual DV-lottery of 55,000 quota but it is NOT becomed a law yet. Now is April, 2011 and the DV-lottery results of this year will be announced soon online and the coming year of DV-lottery will be drawn again later during this coming Oct, 2011 but there is still NO hope to give those EB-2/EB-3 applicants into this DV-lottery quota. If this quota is occupied by EB-2/EB-3 applicants, less applicants will be in GC line.

    Also, there is a proposed bill to allow foreign US accreditated universities' advanced graduates of STEM and with a US job offer to have GC but again it is NOT becomed a law yet. Also, your proposed EB-2/EB-3 applicants who have continuous stay of 8 years in US without criminal record to have GC may not fit the requirement of US needed because some of these EB-2/EB-3 applicants are NOT graduated in US universities and some of them are NOT in Science, Medicine, Engineering and Techology academic major which US society in demand.

    Last time I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about there is guy who was graduated in a US university with double Master degree---one is M.Sc in computer science and the other is MBA and he still get stuck in getting his first new H-1B visa and later he decided to back home without choice. Yesterday I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about some people who graduated in US Ph.D or doctorate degree in Science/Engineering/Medicine cannot get the GC or some of them get stuck in his or her first new H-1B visa application (due to quota was full or from other reasons) or get stuck in the H-1B visa renewed. So without H-1B visa, how can they get into the EB line for GC?----They are all US graduates and have stayed in US for more than 6-8 years to study with social security card and drivers' licenses and without criminal record !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    So you can see if your requested bill in #1) is working, so how about those who graduated in US university in Advanced degree of Science/Medicine/Engineering with US job offer or without H-1B visa?------They are US STEM graduates and have stayed in US with 6-8 years either study or work without criminal record (and with social security card and drivers' licenses)

    Personally, I do believe since US demand Science/Medicine/Engineering (STEM) type people and also need the inflow of money to rescue the national debt, so why don't allow those US STEM type graduates get the GC and bring the money to immigrate to start up companies to create job opportunities and to buy houses. Then the non-STEM graduates who want to stay in US can also go into the second path of immigration such as bring money to set up companies to hire 3-6 persons for better economy. The DV-lottery can open to any US STEM graduates to enrol online by " first come, first get" basis and if once annual immigration quota of 55,000 is filled, those graduates need to wait for another year to enrol online for immigration. So every STEM or non-STEM graduates bring money to start companies in US creating job opportunities, paying taxes and bring inflow of money----better economy is growing up.

    Moreover, those graduates will invite friends/relatives to visit US, increasing sales of both international and dosmetic airline tickets, hotel reservations, restaurant reservations and uplift the profits all kinds of retail businesses. Tourist visa fees will also add monetary income. Overall, inflow of money and jobs creation are dual powers to uplift the economy.
    With inflow of money from immigration, there is NO government shutdown and there is NO hiking taxes needed for the existing US companies.

    Also, in Australia, it allows foreign graduates who have stayed in Australia for over 5 years and without criminal record to get the GC automatically

    OK first of all this proposed bill has no relation to the DV lottery neither does it have any relation to H1B visa. We are talking about the people who are stuck in GC queue for 8 years or more. Which means we are referring to people you started their GC application 8 years ago and still waiting in queue without knowing when their number will come. I hope this clarifies your doubts. Just because you stayed legally for 8 years does not/should not qualify you for getting permanent residency, you have been legally here and paying taxes for the past 8 years there by contributing to the economic growth of the country and this should be the reason why the US govt should consider you for giving you permanent residency. Think about the kids of EB3 holders who are on H4 and want to join college after 16 years, They are not considered residents in US and there by all the international rules apply for their college studies. So much for being in US for 8 years or more and paying taxes to the government and contributing to the economic growth and you get to pay more and more. When illegals can get a DREAM ACT why not our kids? if you are married recently and had your kid born here in the US you might not understand this because your kid is a US citizen but it has a huge impact on EB category members whose kids are not born in the USA, just think about them.

    One has to start somewhere to achieve their goals without even trying to start how can we think this is not possible. I don't want to give any examples here but I would like to say that out motive should be to turn the IMPOSSIBLE to I'M POSSIBLE. Those who are with me please contribute. Critics are welcome without them we would never get new ideas for discussions.

    Wishing for the betterment of everyone in this forum!


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  • satyasaich
    08-11 10:01 PM
    what makes you think that EB3 are just graduates only? i worked in top 3 telecom company with 8 years experience before joining that company as full time employee in 2000 Jan. they started by GC process in JAn 2001.
    but they have a company policy that all will be filed as EB3 no matter what. i have my colleagues who have masters from US, but still EB3. what do you say ?

    what pisses me off is today i have more than 15 years of experience in IT , (yes Information technology only) and still in the line with EB3.
    I'm happy that atleast EB2 is moving but at the same time there must be a balance for EB3 as well. that's all my point

    (NOte: i was playing by rule so far and no regrets for that)

    because they spent those 2 years getting additional academic qualifications such as masters etc., you should have listened to your parents when they told you to study well.. didnt you play cricket then ?


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  • qasleuth
    02-27 04:19 PM
    Hi friends,
    No doubt this is a great idea and also as newbie2020 suggests no point of wasting time and loosing the current tempo and massive support of IV members on this regard.
    Would like to request all, is it possible to change the bridge schedule a bit to 9.00 or 9.30 PM EST so that it would be easier to participate for people who are in Pacific Time Zone? If most people have difficulty in doing that, lets move forward with the current schedule.

    Please update.....


    Sounds reasonable. Newbie2020 and others, does 9:00 PM EST sound ok to you guys ? We can cut down the call to about 45 mins to enable early risers to get to bed.

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  • deecha
    07-20 10:55 PM

    What I need to do now? My I-94 has wrong expiration date (I entered in US on 03/07/2007 and I got I-94 with expiration date as 01/10/2007). My attorney told me that it can be explained later. So, I've already file my 485 with a bad I-94.

    Please let me know if anything can be done or still I can do something to correct this issue.


    There are 2 possibilities here :

    a) Wait for RFE to be issued, then reply to the RFE with evidence document and a written explanation. It may not be as simple, as they might issue a NOID if the I-94 date causes you to be artificially out of status / unlawful stay for > 180 days. Again this is just a best guess. Ask your lawyer for a more detailed explanation.

    b) Use the I-539 status change form along with written explanation requesting an extension of your status because of the wrong date on the I-94 issued to you. Mail to CSC or VSC depending on jurisdiction. They should issue you a new I-94. When you get this, file an amendment to your original 485 that was filed. Again, suggest this approach to your lawyer and see what he says.

    All the best.


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  • srkamath
    07-10 10:28 PM
    Can any of the moderators please close this thread ... it is pointless.

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  • akhilmahajan
    06-18 11:22 AM
    Thanks for the replies. I guess, I do not have time to get all that done before I file the I485. Damn, should have taken care of it earlier. I guess I will have to fill the forms just as I have done for the labor and then hope that I am not stuck. Will follow up with my lawyer to get some legal advice too. If I learn anything new, I will sure post.

    Thanks again.

    I am in the same boat as u r............... i have emailed my companies immigration dept and waiting to hear from them............. if u hear something from them, can u please share it here with us............... will really appreciate that.............


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    08-22 02:37 PM
    That was a good one. I must confess I listen to his show too every now and then to remind myself why i don't like him and his followers ( who, I am sure have a heart of gold, but are truly and utterly misguided)

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  • om.vikas
    12-23 05:04 PM
    If you have time for you visa application then get a new passort with name correction, or you can say them to put a observation on second page of the passport which can be done 1-2 days.

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  • gctest
    09-16 10:07 AM
    Looking at this hue and cry, I can only tell that you guys are shit scared. Because you know that we have a very strong case. and you are mad.. because we are fighting for our rights.

    About free speech etc... This is a bboard for a larger cause and your divisive tactics are best kept at your doorstep.

    Admins, please ban this character from the bboards. He/she is a delusional PhD who will end up fragmenting IV for his selfish needs...


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  • deecha
    08-09 08:50 AM
    1).I came to USA on L1-B in 2003 October and the I-94 was till september-2006.
    2). Then i changed my Visa to H1-B in 2005.
    3). I was asking my employer to file for change of status from L-1 to H-1.
    4). Those guys filed for a new H-1 and sent it to a consulate in India.
    5). I was not aware of this and i thought i am legal till september the expiration date on my Visa.
    6). Labor got cleared in July-2007.
    7). Thought i would file for I-140 and I-485 together and found out that my I-94 was expired since September-2006.

    What is the best course of action here to remedy my situation??
    Any advice or details of a great Immigration lawyer who dealth with such cases before would be of great help.

    Thanks in Advance !!

    You're in a tricky situation. If you leave the country now you could possibly face a 3 year ban on entry. If your H1 NOA did not contain a I-94 then you're possibly on unlawful stay. You could however file for a waiver with an explanation, but it is at the consulates discretion. I would find an Immigration lawyer and consult with him/her.

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  • hpandey
    11-11 04:33 PM
    If he goes to cops what happens to his 485? He is worried that's why he is on this forum - I think he was looking for posters with similar experiences and whether complaining to cops worked or not.

    Is 485 the sole purpose of our life now ? Personally I don't give a damn about the GC if I have to see my family suffer and I don't think any crime can be worse than seeing an adult abusing an infant who can't protect himself and not doing something about it.

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    04-15 09:55 PM
    So typical of you guys. Once you lose an argument you start abusing and if the opponent is a female its more the merrier for you guys. Do you even know the basis rule of being polite with everyone in USA. So if the guy is an american you will kiss his feet. The moment the person is an indian you start abusing if it is an indian female then you have a licence to abuse

    And these are the kinds of people who will get US citizenshiph

    If you flip the pages you would know who started all these.

    I did have some respect for your words though

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  • paskal
    12-18 08:07 PM
    Thanks all for responding

    We are at 19 now, in our fledgling campaign

    Please all, feel free to post when you contribute

    And please pick a number and push the counter forward so we can demonstrate our commitment to all those watching on the sidelines

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    09-26 04:58 PM
    Can you explain how did u get it notarized?

    I need to know:
    1. Where I can go to get it notarized?
    2. Where on this form do I sign?
    3. Do we need two witnesses as the form asks for two Names / Addresses?
    4. What else I might be asked for when getting it notarized?


    Ok, i had the same problem.

    Surname: blank
    Given Name: First Last.

    But in all US documents had it correctly distinguished. Recently when i renewed my passport i got it fixed at NY. You DO NOT NEED a news paper ad for this kind of change. I went to NY Indian consulate personally to ask this question as no one was lifting the phone. The person over there gave me a special form to fill it out and get it notarized. I did all of that and they printed the name correctly. Another guy had same problem, he did not even filled out that form, but they corrected his name as well. I was surprised how lenient these guys are.

    Me and the other guy were joking on the way back in train because they did it for him without the special application, its like they don't care what name you have, " do you want Tom Cruise, i will write Tom Cruise - no problem at all, or even better, we will give you passports with empty name column, you fill it up with whatever you want :) "

    Don't worry guys, this change is easy and this does not impact 485 as well, as long as you have always reported your correct name in your other USCIS documents. THEY KNOW that internationals have their names goofed up in their passports. Its not new for them.

    Hope this helps.

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