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  • Mahatma
    07-10 02:40 PM
    Senthil has articulated legal basis of current system. However, many members feel agrieved by current situation. My displeasure with current law was based on my perception about principles of natural justice and a dogma that one measure (current provisions) should not negatively impact others basic rights for happiness, equality, nondiscrimination etc. Courts could take a look at how much damege or injury is possible or actually already resulting (stalled careers, family separation, life on hold, creativity-innovation halted) in current system. Atleast it will open up healthy debate and rational measures to address genuine problems.

    Could anybody clarify as to whether counting of family members towards annual quota is mandated by congress or it is an administrative provision.

    Bill Clinton did a wonderful fix by signing AC21 which corrected many shortfalls of immigration law.

    I am personally not impacted by backlog. However, I am feeling bad enough for the failure of current sysem that overlooks human tragedies. 180-day name check fix is a commendable step by USCIS (brought about by healthy debate and do not look at this as court-imposed). As in the scientific world, peer review and criticism is taken seriously in this country. By law suit, we are trying to create peer review or honest analysis about this impasse. No body wins but the truth and humanity.

    If there is any way to open up annual quota (recapture, family members exempt from annual limit or any measure I am not aware of), automatically everybody could benefit. It may be also possible for EB3 to interfile or refile for EB2 and take advantage of old priority date and shorten the wait. there is ot a magic wand. We could help our administrators, law makers and law protectors and law upholders to make appropriate corrections. Hence, scientific and rational dialogue through fair and just means is our focus.

    Let us highlight our difficulties in a logical way. Go about living normal life but stand up for something you believe in.

    Honestly, Ineed to do some research on EB3 situation and see if there is something more meaningful to share with IVians.





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  • meg_z
    04-20 09:46 AM
    Even during the recess, we were talking to the staff of a ton of senators. Most of the time the senators' staff are interested only if someone from 'their constituency' is also affected. We always say we have a ton of folks from each state, but nothing works like a real example.

    For example, when we speak to say Senator Kennedy, it helps us to present the story of folks affected by retrogression and living in say Boston, MA. That way, the staff has some incentive to look into this and get hooked immediately.

    Since time is short this time, we need all the stories from each state to make our case.

    As promised, we will not reveal your story to media if you do not want to.
    Though there is no harm to reveal one's name in media as can be noticed by the folks featured in the Roll Call article, Philly Inquirer and News Observer.

    We will just concentrate on the crux how you are suffering because of delays such that even if your boss reads this story, he will not be offended or put off (Read our members stories in the three articles I have mentioned, none of it can get the IV members in any trouble at all).

    At the same time we understand that you might have reasons to remain out of media and we will fully respect that.

    But please send in your stories so we have a convincing story to make our case.....


    Your first post seemed asking only career wise successful folks who have patents/inovations and are affected by retrogression. I did write my story and then reread your first post, then thought to myself: my story is just similar to that Italian lady! The only thing different is she probably would have gotten her green card without much trouble, unlike my process.

    Please let me know if you need ordinary story like mine, non-IT, mother and having been waiting for many years. Thanks.





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  • dohko
    04-10 07:41 PM
    I think you need to have a copy of your diploma.
    But you can still apply for OPT and apply for next year





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  • kumarc123
    07-11 12:02 PM
    first: my use of an extreme exemple to explain the EB category difference seems to have caused misunderstanding and offence amomg some people. this was not the intention, no slight was intended to anyone. sometimes one uses an extreme situation to make a point (3 yr degree in this case). I was not trying to stereotype and if that is how it came through...here is my humble apology.

    i did reply to some of the posters by pm and had some intersting comments/discussion. its one of the nice things about this forum that people bring different insights into a problem...

    qvadis, there is fundamental difference between allotting Employment based Gc on the basis of country of birth and based on job classifications/requirements. One happens to pertain to employment, the other is simply a way to mantain ahem "purity".
    having said that, i do not favor the removal of country quotas in isolation- the redistribution of dates would make things better for long suffering people but it would not change the overall picture. therefore i support the package in its entirity (as does IV), ie recapture + STEM exemption + removal of country quotas. this would bring in substantially increased numbers and resolve the problem with ROW dates.

    now that its established that this thread will not go back to its original intent, do the OPs mind if i close it? may be best to restart the discussion in a new thred?

    Hello Pascal
    I tend to agree with every word you said, it is not EB2 or EB3, in general it is EB community as a whole. Recapture+STEM+removal of country limit, will help us all a lot. Lets just focus on this chore. And not get swayed away with winning and complaining.


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  • bsbawa10
    09-05 05:14 PM
    Hello Guys

    How many days we will have left in Sep month. Now its too late any action we will take may need 15 days or more .. by that time we will have oct month and new bulletin..

    rather than there will be a some movement on HR 5882 bill next week.. lets focus on it so it will solve problem for all.

    This is also for all and it is not about recapturing the visas alone. It is about justice to anybody whose PD is current. What kind of justice would it be if your PD is current after the visas have been recaptured and you are waiting for 10 years just because your case is not being picked up in the random lottery ?

    Once again, please visit http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dd4vkcmm_119vmrj2gfs and make constructive contribution to editing this letter adding impressive thoughts. I am ready to post the letter. If nobody joins hands with me, I will go alone but it will be good if we are together.





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  • vbkris77
    06-09 02:12 PM
    We could have got 1000 from each of the IV member, if July Fiasco hadn't happened.

    Most I spoke to are content with EAD/AP.

    Even if 1000 of our ~41000 members contribute 100 dollars each, we can host two more events like this.

    It makes sense to ask help from outside of the organization only when our internal resources are all exhausted. However, sadly, most of us do not want to even contribute for the good cause. :o



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  • wandmaker
    12-04 12:09 PM
    It will take 10 years to see the light (GC) at the end of the tunnel, IV can help you get there faster. How faster you get there depends on your contribution?





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  • unitednations
    02-04 12:39 PM
    Mr Unitednation takes the advantages of ignorance (in immgration law) of most of the forum members and spreading wrong information in both web sites.

    Of course he is very informative, however he is very biased and having wrong openion that EB3 India has stolen EB3_ROW number in previous years as he belongs to ROW. He wrongly assumes that till EB3-ROW becomes current EB2 & EB3-India will not see any movement. He thinks no one knows the rules, laws ect..and he is only one knows everything. The actual fact is most peoples have been doing research on retrogression like him last two years and not having enough time to reply his post. To fuel his openion DOS is violating the section 202 of INA and no one cares about this including IV core team.

    If you want to know true color of Unitednation visit this site.

    http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=225197&page=3&pp=15&highlight=outlook

    If you want to know how unused visanumbers suppose to work as per the law, visit this site.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=2659&highlight=century


    So please take a crack at how it works. Above posting is right from the horses mouth. As I challenged people if they think DOS/USCIS is breaking the law by going vertical instead of horizontal then they should contact them or sue them. However, no one has been willing to do this.



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  • paskal
    12-19 02:45 PM
    and shukla was 75...





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  • santb1975
    11-19 12:45 AM
    I sent out an email about IV and this thread to my family and friends today and One of my friend called and said he will make a contribution. so let's see. I have posted about this thread on the Southern California Yahoo groups and sent emails to some IV members I have met recently. so we will see how this turns out. My thought is to keep this thread active throughout the Holidays season. We have 6 weeks to go this year and 23,000 members. Let's see how much we can raise in this time frame.

    At one of the booths we had in Southern California a couple of weeks ago a gentleman happened to stop by and said "your orgnization is so strong you can raise funds easily because it only takes every member in your group to contribute 10$ and you will have close to 250k in funds in no time". If it's that easy my dream will definately come true :confused:



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  • amitjoey
    07-05 07:49 PM
    The media needs to know, I do not have any idea how.





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  • bugsbunny
    12-10 01:47 PM
    Thanks for posting the link.

    1.4.6 A pregnant inmate shall not be restrained while in labor, while giving birth, or during the post-partum recovery period, unless requested by attending medical staff or as specifically directed by the Warden. If restraints are necessary in any manner under such conditions, they should be the least restrictive type possible to remain consistent with sound security practices.

    So the warden can still order restraints.

    The Sheriff or his officers are not Wardens. A Warden(the head of a prison) can order it if the inmate has demonstrated a history of assaultive behavior or escaped before. Neither applies. And the restraints have to be the least restrictive, not have both legs and hands shackled.

    Dude its apparent that you are a moron.



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  • Macaca
    07-17 08:56 PM
    GRRRRR....

    :p
    I just hoped that you are not like our always teary eyed Indians!





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  • dummgelauft
    12-08 05:05 PM
    its unbelievable what attitude some have on here...many on here are anti-illegal immigration which is understandable...but how can you condone such inhumane treatment...we are not animals...illegals are economic refugees in a way

    just cause most of us on here were blessed to come up in decent families who afforded our education...it doesnt give us a right to treat the less fortunate with no dignity...what a shame

    always "treat others the way you want to be treated"`
    ..else, don't say what you don't do.
    Hey, lets do this. Let's get a couple of homeless bums to just move into your house, while you are not there and then have them DEMAND repsect, humanity, food, medical care, clothing and shelter from YOU. ALL in the name of humanity.
    Then let us see what your reaction is.......a homeless US citizen is in no way inferior to you so called "economic refugee".

    Countries have borders and laws for a reason, and each country has the right to protect its borders and uphold the laws. Most of us being of Indian descent, should look into our own house. What is happening to Biharis in Maharashtra...are Biharis not Citizens of India.....we don;t even tolerate people of other states, coming to our state!! and expect US to just keep letting trespassers in?


    The name of this Country is "UNITED STATES of AMERICA"...NOT "FREE_FOR_ALL REFUGEE CAMP"..



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  • chanduv23
    09-07 11:41 PM
    In that case make it 10,000 + 11,724 , as we all will be directly or indirectly watching you.

    and where did this 11,724 number come from? Is it the rest of IV?





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  • WaitingForMyGC
    02-25 10:52 AM
    I am sure you meant: two thumbs up and not 'two thumps up' Thanks for providing an early morning chuckle :)

    I agree, this is a good idea!


    :) Sorry a TYPO.



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  • santiwar
    03-08 01:05 PM
    I just paid 100$ via pay pal.

    Transaction ID: 7LT9561677664923V.

    Voted on the 25 $ option, but paid 100$. Please adjust your calculation accordingly.





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  • qasleuth
    12-09 01:52 AM
    I can debate you rationally under one condition; the moment you resort to personal attacks I will stop. I will assume you have a fair grip of English language and decent comprehension skills. If you agree then lets get this rolling:

    First off, have you read the link which I have provided in my previous post ?

    If you did, then I hope you will stop making simplistic comparisons of Mexicans coming into US to lets say Bangladeshi's coming into India.

    "we all know how our Police forces and other investigative agencies treat and interrogate the people in their custody"
    No, we ALL do not know that. Even if it is true in every part of the country and in each and every case, it does not make it right.

    "Just one hypothetical question for these people...What if a pregnant female terrorist is arrested by police in India, just before she was about to engage in some terrorist act in India itself, is arrested and is shackled to her hospital bed, while she gives birth...would all of these "human rights supporters be saying these same things..."

    What you are making is called a straw man argument (Straw man - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman)). In this case, the woman is NOT a terrorist nor
    was she suspected of any such crime, so bringing such hypotheticals will not give any weight to your argument.

    What you are seeing is a case of 'socio-economic' osmosis. Problems of this nature has been debated across many nations of the world. How you handle these issues goes to the core character of the nation. Shooting 'intruders' is perhaps one way of looking at it. Then such a solution cannot be undertaken by a 'super-power' who wants to hold moral superiority in the league of nations.

    A few 'simple' cases of water-boarding people thought will not have any repercussions. How wrong those people were. Similarly, police torturing 'intruders' and defending such actions does not make it right. It just erodes the basic character of the entire country. Would you want to teach your own kids as to how to treat such issues ? Shooting, shackling, water-boarding etc ? Please do not give a flippant reply, do think about it before you hit the submit button.

    Socio-economic solution along with a sensible immigration policy has been found to be far more sensible as compared to a pure enforcement policy. It has been proved over the years that a pure enforcement policy which many nativists support to be economically unviable. Minutemen patrolling the borders to Gov. Perry's multi million dollar border cameras, have proven to be ineffective and economically unfeasible.

    You are right on the money.
    And all of us who are from India, let us not forget that INDIA faces similar issues of cross-border infiltration ( the reasons may be different), form some of our less than friendly neighboring countries.
    Indian forces are trained and instructed to foil these guys from crossing over by whatever means necessary, including blowing their heads off with a well placed gunshot...and if arrested, we all know how our Police forces and other investigative agencies treat and interrogate the people in their custody...
    Just one hypothetical question for these people...What if a pregnant female terrorist is arrested by police in India, just before she was about to engage in some terrorist act in India itself, is arrested and is shackled to her hospital bed, while she gives birth...would all of these "human rights supporters be saying these same things...

    Where does the "humanity" that these "holier-than-thou" people are talking about, go.
    We all feel happy when intruders are shot or arrested at out land borders....

    If India has the right to protect its territory from illegal incursions by Citizens of other countries, why not US?





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  • milind70
    07-20 10:44 PM
    Friends,

    What I need to do now? My I-94 has wrong expiration date (I entered in US on 03/07/2007 and I got I-94 with expiration date as 01/10/2007). My attorney told me that it can be explained later. So, I've already file my 485 with a bad I-94.

    Please let me know if anything can be done or still I can do something to correct this issue.

    Thanks,
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    Maverick1
    07-11 01:11 PM
    There are only a handful who are active. EB3's are screwed so bad that they have resigned to fate or comtemplating using AC 21 and reapplying in EB 2. i have tired pointing it out to many that EB 3 as a whole is in the same boat, few care and the July filers are happy in the land of EAD/AP.

    Some people like me who really love what they do and dont prefer changing jobs have reached a point where they are begining to think if it is all even worth the wait. You will not find a sleeping giant, rather a depressed giant overrun by a bunch of koolaid drinkers.

    I couldn't have said better :))
    Screwed up by lawyer's incompetence and bad timing :(





    rsdang
    02-26 05:37 PM
    ALLOW EVERYONE TO FILE I485 SHOULD BE OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY.
    You people already have filed 485 and have EAD. EAD gives you so much freedom . It is as good as a green card.

    What about people who are less fortunate and cannot file II485. We need to allow everyone to be on the same page first and enjoy EAD freedom.

    That should be our priority before any country limits or this thread action item

    Guys - Feel free to agree or disagree its just one opnion...

    I think the priority should be

    1. Get country quota out
    2. Get Pending EADs sorted per this threads idea
    3. Get ammendment to let I485 filing be done after labor been pending for say 6 months...

    My 2 cents...



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