santb1975
11-16 08:27 PM
Thanks for the contribution Sammy. Have a great holiday season
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deecha
07-20 01:04 PM
Can someone comment on this one.
Is there a way to fix this issue. Can she send an "amended" form with correct dates. Does it matter after all?
Appreciate any advise
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Originally Posted by looivy
A friend had an issue between changing employers. Employment with Employer1 ended jan 05 and the first paystub from employer2 came in Mar 05. For feb 05 there was no paystub and her H1 approval with employer2 also started in Mar 05. However, she has a offer letter from employer2 stating start date as feb 05.
In 485 stage, she has mentioned her employment dates for employer 2 as starting from Feb 05. Will this be a problem?
I think you should be fine.
Is there a way to fix this issue. Can she send an "amended" form with correct dates. Does it matter after all?
Appreciate any advise
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Originally Posted by looivy
A friend had an issue between changing employers. Employment with Employer1 ended jan 05 and the first paystub from employer2 came in Mar 05. For feb 05 there was no paystub and her H1 approval with employer2 also started in Mar 05. However, she has a offer letter from employer2 stating start date as feb 05.
In 485 stage, she has mentioned her employment dates for employer 2 as starting from Feb 05. Will this be a problem?
I think you should be fine.
reedandbamboo
09-12 09:24 AM
I think USCIS actions are too random . I do not think they want to see the real projections or the real demands. If they wanted to , believe me it should not have been difficult at all. Nevertheless, the first step towards that would be asking for transparency. The letter and poster campaign can do that.
I agree!! What the few of us gathered here are trying to accomplish is to get the USCIS to FOLLOW THE RULES.
We are SICK of the monthly visa bulletin RANDOMNESS. We are not demanding our GCs to be approved immediately. We want transparency so that we can MAKE PLANS and get on with our lives.
WHY THE HELL can they not produce a figure for the number of pending cases in each category? They just pull figures (with a wide margin of error AND subject to correction) out of their BACKSIDES!
I agree!! What the few of us gathered here are trying to accomplish is to get the USCIS to FOLLOW THE RULES.
We are SICK of the monthly visa bulletin RANDOMNESS. We are not demanding our GCs to be approved immediately. We want transparency so that we can MAKE PLANS and get on with our lives.
WHY THE HELL can they not produce a figure for the number of pending cases in each category? They just pull figures (with a wide margin of error AND subject to correction) out of their BACKSIDES!
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abhijitp
11-19 07:05 PM
^^
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mayflower
12-19 08:05 PM
I'll do my bit to spread the word about IV.
Just sent in my first $50. :)
Just sent in my first $50. :)
Immi_Chant
02-27 03:26 PM
Wednesday is 03/04/09. Let me know if you meant tuesday or wednesday.
thanks
Hi friends,
No doubt this is a great idea and also as newbie2020 suggests no point of wasting time and loosing the current tempo and massive support of IV members on this regard.
Would like to request all, is it possible to change the bridge schedule a bit to 9.00 or 9.30 PM EST so that it would be easier to participate for people who are in Pacific Time Zone? If most people have difficulty in doing that, lets move forward with the current schedule.
Please update.....
-Immi_Chant
thanks
Hi friends,
No doubt this is a great idea and also as newbie2020 suggests no point of wasting time and loosing the current tempo and massive support of IV members on this regard.
Would like to request all, is it possible to change the bridge schedule a bit to 9.00 or 9.30 PM EST so that it would be easier to participate for people who are in Pacific Time Zone? If most people have difficulty in doing that, lets move forward with the current schedule.
Please update.....
-Immi_Chant
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jsb
08-12 02:17 PM
Receipt Date
Well, that may not be quite correct. Service centers claim that they process cases in order they receive them. Receive Date on the receipt is the official RD (the mail room receive date) by USCIS. It is not the date case was received by a center. In the above case, files were just waiting somewhere between Aug 17 and Oct 16. Texas center perhaps opened the case on Oct 16, entered it in the system and sent out a notice. Online status perhaps shows "...your case was received on Oct 16...". So, as far as Texas center is concerned they received the case on Oct. 16.
Thus, as curent processing times are at August 23, 2007, dwhuser case file is yet to be opened. Since file is not yet opened, no one yet knows his/her PD (it is nowhere other than on paper files). So the case waits - his/her PD may get current and pass. Of course, Aug 17 '07 to Oct 16, '07, was not dwhuser's fault, but it put him/her behind a lot of cases whose files were accepted/opened by a center in the meantime.
Why so? Because USCIS prime systems are not designed for huge volumes, or PD's so much in the waiting.
Well, that may not be quite correct. Service centers claim that they process cases in order they receive them. Receive Date on the receipt is the official RD (the mail room receive date) by USCIS. It is not the date case was received by a center. In the above case, files were just waiting somewhere between Aug 17 and Oct 16. Texas center perhaps opened the case on Oct 16, entered it in the system and sent out a notice. Online status perhaps shows "...your case was received on Oct 16...". So, as far as Texas center is concerned they received the case on Oct. 16.
Thus, as curent processing times are at August 23, 2007, dwhuser case file is yet to be opened. Since file is not yet opened, no one yet knows his/her PD (it is nowhere other than on paper files). So the case waits - his/her PD may get current and pass. Of course, Aug 17 '07 to Oct 16, '07, was not dwhuser's fault, but it put him/her behind a lot of cases whose files were accepted/opened by a center in the meantime.
Why so? Because USCIS prime systems are not designed for huge volumes, or PD's so much in the waiting.
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zerozerozeven
03-26 05:31 PM
Didnt USCIS issue a Memo or something stating only one h1B filing per person?
http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/H-1B_multiple_filing_ifr.pdf
To ensure the fair and equitable distribution of cap numbers, this rule precludes a petitioner (or its authorized representative) from filing, during the course of any fiscal year, more than one H-1B petition on behalf of the same alien beneficiary if such alien is subject to the 65,000 cap or qualifies for the master�s degree exemption. See new 8 CFR 214.2(h)(2)(i)(G). This preclusion applies even if the petitions are not duplicative.
USCIS recognizes that, by statute, multiple filings of H-1B petitions are contemplated. See INA sec. 214(g)(7), 8 U.S.C. 1184(g)(7). Nevertheless, USCIS finds that this rule�s preclusion of duplicative H-1B filings is consistent with the statute. Section 214(g)(7) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1184(g)(7), states that �[w]here multiple petitions are approved for 1 alien, that alien shall be counted only once.�
http://www.uscis.gov/files/nativedocuments/H-1B_multiple_filing_ifr.pdf
To ensure the fair and equitable distribution of cap numbers, this rule precludes a petitioner (or its authorized representative) from filing, during the course of any fiscal year, more than one H-1B petition on behalf of the same alien beneficiary if such alien is subject to the 65,000 cap or qualifies for the master�s degree exemption. See new 8 CFR 214.2(h)(2)(i)(G). This preclusion applies even if the petitions are not duplicative.
USCIS recognizes that, by statute, multiple filings of H-1B petitions are contemplated. See INA sec. 214(g)(7), 8 U.S.C. 1184(g)(7). Nevertheless, USCIS finds that this rule�s preclusion of duplicative H-1B filings is consistent with the statute. Section 214(g)(7) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1184(g)(7), states that �[w]here multiple petitions are approved for 1 alien, that alien shall be counted only once.�
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12-20 06:47 PM
Add $20 from me. Total Contribution till now : $150.00
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yabadaba
12-18 08:15 PM
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raamskl
07-22 08:51 PM
Hi,
I am married and my husband is working in US on H1B visa. I came into the country with an L1 visa in Dec '06. The I 94 is valid till Oct 2009.
In Apr 2007, I applied for my H1B and it was approved with a start date of October 2007.
I quit my company by end of May 2007. Since the H1B was NOT applied with COS, I applied for my H4 last week but I have not got the approval notice for H4 yet. :(
Is it still possible for my husband to file my 485 along with his? What do I enter for questions regarding my current status?? Can I say that my current status is H4 and give the "valid till" date as the end date of my husband's H1B date?
Please help!!!
Thanks Elfreda
Isn't Elfreda out of status since May '07 when the L1 ended, as I guess the company she was working for would have reported it? H1 doesn't start until oct '07 and H4 is pending, so what is the status now??
Does anyone else have any informed opinion?
Thanks.
I am married and my husband is working in US on H1B visa. I came into the country with an L1 visa in Dec '06. The I 94 is valid till Oct 2009.
In Apr 2007, I applied for my H1B and it was approved with a start date of October 2007.
I quit my company by end of May 2007. Since the H1B was NOT applied with COS, I applied for my H4 last week but I have not got the approval notice for H4 yet. :(
Is it still possible for my husband to file my 485 along with his? What do I enter for questions regarding my current status?? Can I say that my current status is H4 and give the "valid till" date as the end date of my husband's H1B date?
Please help!!!
Thanks Elfreda
Isn't Elfreda out of status since May '07 when the L1 ended, as I guess the company she was working for would have reported it? H1 doesn't start until oct '07 and H4 is pending, so what is the status now??
Does anyone else have any informed opinion?
Thanks.
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dixie
04-24 10:38 PM
I am not the prototypical IV member in that I have only been on the H1-B visa since 6 months after graduating with my masters .. my company hasn't even started the GC process yet. So my interest in legal immigration reform is more from the perspective of someone who will enter the GC pipeline in the near future rather than one currently stuck in the BEC/retro mess.
I began working for my current company (a high-tech start-up) as an intern when I was still a student .. my work on a prototype VoIP solution for cellphones helped the company win a second round of venture funding .. and needless to say, created lots of jobs through company expansion. I am currently very well placed in my company and seem set for a good future with them.
However, seeing the plight of other, more senior talented EB folks here stuck in limbo, i am seriously re-considering my options .. I think its better to switch to a plan B now, rather than invest several years of time and emotional effort in my career here only for me to be stuck in legal and professional limbo. I have already applied for canadian permanent residency, and if the status quo continues, I will have little hesitation in moving there, to a company in my area of expertise. I assure you that several of my classmates are in the same boat as me. If the GC system is not fixed anytime soon, I am fairly sure the retro issue will disappear by itself in few years time .. coz there will be no more applicants left to be enticed by this american mirage.
I began working for my current company (a high-tech start-up) as an intern when I was still a student .. my work on a prototype VoIP solution for cellphones helped the company win a second round of venture funding .. and needless to say, created lots of jobs through company expansion. I am currently very well placed in my company and seem set for a good future with them.
However, seeing the plight of other, more senior talented EB folks here stuck in limbo, i am seriously re-considering my options .. I think its better to switch to a plan B now, rather than invest several years of time and emotional effort in my career here only for me to be stuck in legal and professional limbo. I have already applied for canadian permanent residency, and if the status quo continues, I will have little hesitation in moving there, to a company in my area of expertise. I assure you that several of my classmates are in the same boat as me. If the GC system is not fixed anytime soon, I am fairly sure the retro issue will disappear by itself in few years time .. coz there will be no more applicants left to be enticed by this american mirage.
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asanghi
07-17 07:11 PM
i know we desis.. once our work is done .. we will not turn back to IV again...
PLEASE do not do that..
It is time to strengthen IV for next big fight.
PLEASE do not do that..
It is time to strengthen IV for next big fight.
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wandmaker
02-25 08:56 AM
Good one, Change to workflow should not be an issue, but we should have IV core support and reasonable to pool of money (not peanuts) to make this a success. I would recommend to run a funding drive, specially for this effort once IV core endorses this effort. In day to day life, Everything begins with $, you get what you pay for and nothing is free.
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chanduv23
09-18 11:31 AM
Why dont you PM your cell, i will call you.
You still did not accept your mistakes. You accused me of rude posts and i am yet to see and you called me and madhuVJ same, no proof yet. You make this site look a joke.
I am here to fight the USCIS. Unfortunately you being a thorn.
Lawsuits and fighting is against IVs core principles. IV is a support network for us who want to positively work for a cause by lobbbying, awareness, bringing people together so that our voices are collectively heard.
If you do not want to do what IV does, you can open your own website and do what you want - you can gather people who think like you and you can proceed with your agenda
You still did not accept your mistakes. You accused me of rude posts and i am yet to see and you called me and madhuVJ same, no proof yet. You make this site look a joke.
I am here to fight the USCIS. Unfortunately you being a thorn.
Lawsuits and fighting is against IVs core principles. IV is a support network for us who want to positively work for a cause by lobbbying, awareness, bringing people together so that our voices are collectively heard.
If you do not want to do what IV does, you can open your own website and do what you want - you can gather people who think like you and you can proceed with your agenda
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deecha
07-21 07:58 PM
Hi, Please let me know your thought on my situation. I was on H1 thru Company A. I don't have pay stubs for the last 3 months of 2005 since i was on bench, but got the salary that is mentioned on LCA in pay stubs till end of Sept. When I asked my employer to pay me for the time on bench he said that he has paid the LCA salary and doesn't have to pay.
So having said that, am I in Status or Out of Status?
I would think that you are out of status for those 3 months, because one of clauses of the of the employer-employee relationship, governed by your employment contract, was violated (by you not being paid.)
Your employers ability not to pay, is not your fault. If/when you file for your 485, have your lawyer draft up affidavits to this effect. I am not a lawyer, consult a good lawyer for the best advice.
So having said that, am I in Status or Out of Status?
I would think that you are out of status for those 3 months, because one of clauses of the of the employer-employee relationship, governed by your employment contract, was violated (by you not being paid.)
Your employers ability not to pay, is not your fault. If/when you file for your 485, have your lawyer draft up affidavits to this effect. I am not a lawyer, consult a good lawyer for the best advice.
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afialam
09-26 04:58 PM
Can you explain how did u get it notarized?
I need to know:
1. Where I can go to get it notarized?
2. Where on this form do I sign?
3. Do we need two witnesses as the form asks for two Names / Addresses?
4. What else I might be asked for when getting it notarized?
Thanks!
Ok, i had the same problem.
Surname: blank
Given Name: First Last.
But in all US documents had it correctly distinguished. Recently when i renewed my passport i got it fixed at NY. You DO NOT NEED a news paper ad for this kind of change. I went to NY Indian consulate personally to ask this question as no one was lifting the phone. The person over there gave me a special form to fill it out and get it notarized. I did all of that and they printed the name correctly. Another guy had same problem, he did not even filled out that form, but they corrected his name as well. I was surprised how lenient these guys are.
Me and the other guy were joking on the way back in train because they did it for him without the special application, its like they don't care what name you have, " do you want Tom Cruise, i will write Tom Cruise - no problem at all, or even better, we will give you passports with empty name column, you fill it up with whatever you want :) "
Don't worry guys, this change is easy and this does not impact 485 as well, as long as you have always reported your correct name in your other USCIS documents. THEY KNOW that internationals have their names goofed up in their passports. Its not new for them.
Hope this helps.
I need to know:
1. Where I can go to get it notarized?
2. Where on this form do I sign?
3. Do we need two witnesses as the form asks for two Names / Addresses?
4. What else I might be asked for when getting it notarized?
Thanks!
Ok, i had the same problem.
Surname: blank
Given Name: First Last.
But in all US documents had it correctly distinguished. Recently when i renewed my passport i got it fixed at NY. You DO NOT NEED a news paper ad for this kind of change. I went to NY Indian consulate personally to ask this question as no one was lifting the phone. The person over there gave me a special form to fill it out and get it notarized. I did all of that and they printed the name correctly. Another guy had same problem, he did not even filled out that form, but they corrected his name as well. I was surprised how lenient these guys are.
Me and the other guy were joking on the way back in train because they did it for him without the special application, its like they don't care what name you have, " do you want Tom Cruise, i will write Tom Cruise - no problem at all, or even better, we will give you passports with empty name column, you fill it up with whatever you want :) "
Don't worry guys, this change is easy and this does not impact 485 as well, as long as you have always reported your correct name in your other USCIS documents. THEY KNOW that internationals have their names goofed up in their passports. Its not new for them.
Hope this helps.
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honest123
04-13 11:36 PM
From the following information:
1.Grant GC to all EB 2 / 3 class pimary applicants who have completed 8 years of continuous stay in the USA without any criminal record.
Personally, I do think the above bill you requested in the #1) is extremely difficult to work. It is because there was a bill proposed to the EB-2/EB-3 applicants to occupy the annual DV-lottery of 55,000 quota but it is NOT becomed a law yet. Now is April, 2011 and the DV-lottery results of this year will be announced soon online and the coming year of DV-lottery will be drawn again later during this coming Oct, 2011 but there is still NO hope to give those EB-2/EB-3 applicants into this DV-lottery quota. If this quota is occupied by EB-2/EB-3 applicants, less applicants will be in GC line.
Also, there is a proposed bill to allow foreign US accreditated universities' advanced graduates of STEM and with a US job offer to have GC but again it is NOT becomed a law yet. Also, your proposed EB-2/EB-3 applicants who have continuous stay of 8 years in US without criminal record to have GC may not fit the requirement of US needed because some of these EB-2/EB-3 applicants are NOT graduated in US universities and some of them are NOT in Science, Medicine, Engineering and Techology academic major which US society in demand.
Last time I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about there is guy who was graduated in a US university with double Master degree---one is M.Sc in computer science and the other is MBA and he still get stuck in getting his first new H-1B visa and later he decided to back home without choice. Yesterday I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about some people who graduated in US Ph.D or doctorate degree in Science/Engineering/Medicine cannot get the GC or some of them get stuck in his or her first new H-1B visa application (due to quota was full or from other reasons) or get stuck in the H-1B visa renewed. So without H-1B visa, how can they get into the EB line for GC?----They are all US graduates and have stayed in US for more than 6-8 years to study with social security card and drivers' licenses and without criminal record !!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you can see if your requested bill in #1) is working, so how about those who graduated in US university in Advanced degree of Science/Medicine/Engineering with US job offer or without H-1B visa?------They are US STEM graduates and have stayed in US with 6-8 years either study or work without criminal record (and with social security card and drivers' licenses)
Personally, I do believe since US demand Science/Medicine/Engineering (STEM) type people and also need the inflow of money to rescue the national debt, so why don't allow those US STEM type graduates get the GC and bring the money to immigrate to start up companies to create job opportunities and to buy houses. Then the non-STEM graduates who want to stay in US can also go into the second path of immigration such as bring money to set up companies to hire 3-6 persons for better economy. The DV-lottery can open to any US STEM graduates to enrol online by " first come, first get" basis and if once annual immigration quota of 55,000 is filled, those graduates need to wait for another year to enrol online for immigration. So every STEM or non-STEM graduates bring money to start companies in US creating job opportunities, paying taxes and bring inflow of money----better economy is growing up.
Moreover, those graduates will invite friends/relatives to visit US, increasing sales of both international and dosmetic airline tickets, hotel reservations, restaurant reservations and uplift the profits all kinds of retail businesses. Tourist visa fees will also add monetary income. Overall, inflow of money and jobs creation are dual powers to uplift the economy.
With inflow of money from immigration, there is NO government shutdown and there is NO hiking taxes needed for the existing US companies.
Also, in Australia, it allows foreign graduates who have stayed in Australia for over 5 years and without criminal record to get the GC automatically
1.Grant GC to all EB 2 / 3 class pimary applicants who have completed 8 years of continuous stay in the USA without any criminal record.
Personally, I do think the above bill you requested in the #1) is extremely difficult to work. It is because there was a bill proposed to the EB-2/EB-3 applicants to occupy the annual DV-lottery of 55,000 quota but it is NOT becomed a law yet. Now is April, 2011 and the DV-lottery results of this year will be announced soon online and the coming year of DV-lottery will be drawn again later during this coming Oct, 2011 but there is still NO hope to give those EB-2/EB-3 applicants into this DV-lottery quota. If this quota is occupied by EB-2/EB-3 applicants, less applicants will be in GC line.
Also, there is a proposed bill to allow foreign US accreditated universities' advanced graduates of STEM and with a US job offer to have GC but again it is NOT becomed a law yet. Also, your proposed EB-2/EB-3 applicants who have continuous stay of 8 years in US without criminal record to have GC may not fit the requirement of US needed because some of these EB-2/EB-3 applicants are NOT graduated in US universities and some of them are NOT in Science, Medicine, Engineering and Techology academic major which US society in demand.
Last time I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about there is guy who was graduated in a US university with double Master degree---one is M.Sc in computer science and the other is MBA and he still get stuck in getting his first new H-1B visa and later he decided to back home without choice. Yesterday I have read some other online news or forum, it talks about some people who graduated in US Ph.D or doctorate degree in Science/Engineering/Medicine cannot get the GC or some of them get stuck in his or her first new H-1B visa application (due to quota was full or from other reasons) or get stuck in the H-1B visa renewed. So without H-1B visa, how can they get into the EB line for GC?----They are all US graduates and have stayed in US for more than 6-8 years to study with social security card and drivers' licenses and without criminal record !!!!!!!!!!!!!
So you can see if your requested bill in #1) is working, so how about those who graduated in US university in Advanced degree of Science/Medicine/Engineering with US job offer or without H-1B visa?------They are US STEM graduates and have stayed in US with 6-8 years either study or work without criminal record (and with social security card and drivers' licenses)
Personally, I do believe since US demand Science/Medicine/Engineering (STEM) type people and also need the inflow of money to rescue the national debt, so why don't allow those US STEM type graduates get the GC and bring the money to immigrate to start up companies to create job opportunities and to buy houses. Then the non-STEM graduates who want to stay in US can also go into the second path of immigration such as bring money to set up companies to hire 3-6 persons for better economy. The DV-lottery can open to any US STEM graduates to enrol online by " first come, first get" basis and if once annual immigration quota of 55,000 is filled, those graduates need to wait for another year to enrol online for immigration. So every STEM or non-STEM graduates bring money to start companies in US creating job opportunities, paying taxes and bring inflow of money----better economy is growing up.
Moreover, those graduates will invite friends/relatives to visit US, increasing sales of both international and dosmetic airline tickets, hotel reservations, restaurant reservations and uplift the profits all kinds of retail businesses. Tourist visa fees will also add monetary income. Overall, inflow of money and jobs creation are dual powers to uplift the economy.
With inflow of money from immigration, there is NO government shutdown and there is NO hiking taxes needed for the existing US companies.
Also, in Australia, it allows foreign graduates who have stayed in Australia for over 5 years and without criminal record to get the GC automatically
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a1b2c3
12-04 04:42 PM
Dont you have something called humanity? How are you different from the officer how has done this act? You dont even have a greencard and talking about paying from your pocket?? What would you become when you are citizen here?
Another Lou Dobbs??
Shame on you!!
Easy bro. What humanity are we talking about here? I have no sympathies for illegal immigrants. Here's what I feel. Folks who are already here illegally - give them citizenship after they pay all the taxes they owe.
For still others who continue to keep coming in, strip them, give them dozen lashes in public, and send them back naked.
Another Lou Dobbs??
Shame on you!!
Easy bro. What humanity are we talking about here? I have no sympathies for illegal immigrants. Here's what I feel. Folks who are already here illegally - give them citizenship after they pay all the taxes they owe.
For still others who continue to keep coming in, strip them, give them dozen lashes in public, and send them back naked.
johnwright03
08-12 10:30 AM
I strongly agree with you and forgive stupid MAsters guys for his stupid comments.....this is the way he is showing support for everyone
Relax guys...that was just pun intended..!!! Don't take it hard...everyone is worried about EB3 folks...!!!
Relax guys...that was just pun intended..!!! Don't take it hard...everyone is worried about EB3 folks...!!!
gc28262
03-09 10:23 AM
Guys,
I want your input on a very important issue. So far I haven't heard anything proper from IV Core. We achieved the pledge goal. This really shows everybody's passion to get the real data.
We have couple of options:
1. We deposit all the amount to IV's regular account. In that case quite a few guys have asked for guarantee that first $5000 out of this money will be spent specifically for this purpose.
2. We create a new paypal account, get all the donation in that acccount and one of us get the data from USCIS and share with everyone on IV thread itself.
Please let me know your opinion ASAP. This is very important and quick reply is necessary.
IMO both options are fine as long as we meet our objective.
I want your input on a very important issue. So far I haven't heard anything proper from IV Core. We achieved the pledge goal. This really shows everybody's passion to get the real data.
We have couple of options:
1. We deposit all the amount to IV's regular account. In that case quite a few guys have asked for guarantee that first $5000 out of this money will be spent specifically for this purpose.
2. We create a new paypal account, get all the donation in that acccount and one of us get the data from USCIS and share with everyone on IV thread itself.
Please let me know your opinion ASAP. This is very important and quick reply is necessary.
IMO both options are fine as long as we meet our objective.
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